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Below: lengthy reactions to clownery. #DaenerysDefenseSquad 

10000% "YAASSS" @ Soman85 (s/he RULES and Tyrion's "first she came for" speech was repugnant & offensive af), TormundsWoman, Adam, Nick20, Kevin, Wolfish, Adrianacandle, TB, Derp, 6thofhisname, & anybody else.
If Dany were the type to go pointlessly snuffing out innocent civilians, she could easily have done so at some previous time. Mere words from advisers wouldn't have prevented it up until the very end. She wasn't a madwoman itching to break free of their magical control.
She had Jon's love even if it was no longer romantic. He was more than delighted to pass the crown to her anyway, making it a nonissue even if they didn't strategically wed.
Dany can’t be blamed for being focused on the throne after having delayed her trip to Westeros almost indefinitely because she was so busy saving and helping people in Essos to no personal benefit. She was no more “bound to go mad” than any number of others, including and especially the precious Starks. She endured the death of one child and many painful losses prior to entering "the great game," some while she was still very young and naive. Since then she'd been preparing to enter the great game, KNOWING full well that it would greatly increase the likelihood of further, even more excruciating losses. And still she persisted because she wanted to reclaim the throne, to be a benevolent queen--unlike her father, unlike the usurper who tried to kill her as an innocent child living an incredibly difficult life in exile, unlike pretty much every other example. The KL attack was not revenge, it was not strategy, it was PURE "We wanna see her burn this set down because! C00l speshul effex d00d!!11!"

Nobody in KL did anything to indicate support for either queen, and Dany had neglected to even run any sort of PR campaign to combat Cersei's propaganda about her. She knew perfectly well that the people of Westeros weren't slaves who would immediately receive her as their savior. She knew she'd have to work to earn their love. After winning the city (with fire and blood, as promised), her nonsensical, wasteful actions and subsequent total delusion were in neither her own interest nor alignment with her goals. They represented a veritable pod person. She should have just gone straight for Cersei in the first bloody place. No need to wipe out anybody else. Or at least, not nearly so many, and not deliberately. Just go roast or capture or do whatever you're gonna do to Cersei, ffs. There won't be a future generation to live in your merciful new world if you just "liberate" everybody from their mortal coils.

I hate the double standards for Dany. What did people want from her? Pacifism? Unfairly unique and perfect adherence to our current democratic ideals? Other monarchs and would-bes were or would be as ruthless as necessary/possible in taking/attempting to take the throne. Most of them just wanted it for their own sakes; she actually wanted to use it to better the world. She specifically wanted to *not* be queen of the ashes, to leave the world a better place, to protect innocents and the less fortunate, to use the most extreme available tactics as a last resort if forced by relentlessly aggressive enemies. She held off on even coming to Westeros, let alone attacking, for a painfully long time due to all these principles of hers. And nothing we saw believably serves as motive for her to abandon said principles. We saw her ruling style, and were it in her nature to attack random/innocent people for no good reason whatsoever, she'd have done so long before the second-to-last episode. Never before had she rained down storms of indiscriminate dragonfire without purpose or apparent provocation. She'd always been horrified by the prospect of the dragons killing average folks who were just going about their business.

Of course she's made big threats. Especially when she was less mature and/or more desperate. Very easy threats to make, out of rage and the desire to prove that you mean business. They even sounded righteous, going on the assumption that the residents of cities opposing you and your chain-breaking were unified in doing so; clearly she was never out to get the slaves or other innocents, only her enemies. She was a Targaryen who grew up with Viserys; how could she not bluster and talk big to antagonists in perhaps not fully-thought-through ways? It was no surprise when she never actually followed through on a threat to return a city to dirt (though I suppose perhaps you could call for civilian evacuation before doing so and target the leaders anyway if it came to that...) But even if this was only because she never needed to, well, she certainly didn't need to in KL--the city she wanted for herself, had just fearsomely won, and then began to destroy because apparently she just adores the idea of all that rebuilding labor and expense. And also suddenly couldn't be bothered to try to avoid the random innocent folks or send them away (where they should've been in the first place.) At any rate, words are wind, and she'd never been confused about the identity of her enemy in Westeros, anyhow.

I can't really compare her relationship to Varys/Tyrion and having to keep her word and execute traitors, with Cersei weirdly failing to have her brothers murdered after Bronn failed. Dany played by the same rules as most--in fact, a generous version. The Tarlys, pfff. The guys who found the "lose" in a win-win situation? She killed no innocents. There were no innocent slavers. The only time she had no justification or understandable reasons for her action was there at the end. Not one person she freed HAD to follow her. She made that abundantly clear. Everyone who fought for her did so freely and passionately because they could see her for what she was.
Of course "breaking the wheel" is an extraordinarily lofty goal due to human nature (there was no guarantee that Daenerys would be able to easily or at all find a way to accomplish this goal, especially for posterity)--and with great power comes great responsibility, so one must be wary of becoming one and the same as the very thing against which one is crusading...but, these cliches cannot account for the inexplicability of the decision to have Dany do what we somehow saw her doing in the last two episodes.

Don't try such further feeble points as the crucified masters; yes, failing to differentiate the one or two who, for whatever reason, hadn't voted to murder slave children and use them as mile markers proved to be one of her queenly learning opportunities. She regretted it when the one dude's son approached her. You know who else neglected to assess individual guilt levels before committing a righteous mass murder? Arya Stark. You know whose mass murder evidently had no repercussions or effect upon her whatsoever? Arya Stark. You know who was depicted heroically throughout the one and only season in which she was distinctly dislikable and occasionally laughable ("i KnOw A kIlLeR WhEn I sEe One"; "sHe's ThE sMaRtEsT pErSoN i'Ve EvEr MeT")? Arya Stark. So just. Please. Can it.

The expectation that the "Long Night" would be more similar to the original and not end the way it did barely an hour and a half from its start was NOT unrealistic or some pet theory that didn't happen to pan out. It was what any sane viewer would anticipate and hope for practically since the very first scene of the series. It was basically a promise, broken just to make room for forcing Daenerys to go insane in three episodes.
Any attempt to drum up sympathy for Cersei or make her look equivalent to or better than Dany utterly failed on me. From the start I saw someone who'd do absolutely anything to anybody without batting an eye if it suited her (selfish, typically cruel and sadistic or apathetic) purpose. Compare her to the girl who fairly consistently did the right thing for its own sake, indefinitely prolonged her stay in the east in order to continue saving and protecting her people, risked everything to save Jon & co. from their worthlessly disastrous trek, etc. etc. etc., and I'll just laugh hysterically forever.

I'll never accept GoT's ending as the true one (something I never could have imagined myself saying, but here we are!) The story shall remain unfinished until and unless George lets us in on it.

P.S. I've loved and agreed with Dany the majority of the time since S1, and I'm not a particularly big Emilia fan. I didn't even start becoming familiar with the actors themselves until 2-3 years back. So I have no bias toward Dany due to stanning her actress.
P.P.S. I do believe Stannis will burn Shireen in the books. :3
P.P.P.S. I can go as Magenta from RHPS without a wig. Love that movie and the live performance I saw; that was a blast. And I'm looking forward to HDM because I'm interested in the daemons...
P.P.P.P.S. The "blue eyes" thing was so blatantly retconned and NOT foreshadowing--had it been the latter then "blue" would've been last for emphasis. It was only a prediction that Arya would become a serial killer and mass murderer.

I rule supremely.  
Although a lotta shit doesn't even show up on that wholly godforsaken site. And the emails haven't worked in ages. 

And another thing: How tf was Shireen's burning "the most despicable act" given the reason behind it, knowing how many people took pleasure in their torture and murder of innocents for little to no defensible reasons? Maybe it hurt you the most because you loved the girl too, but it could've been any unlucky person in her place needed as the sacrifice, which was seen as an unfortunately necessary step toward humanity's ultimate salvation.

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BOY, does it rock being right.

"Truly not that interested in going over so much tedious nonsense yeeeeet again. But eh, I suppose I kinda must…?
Don’t necessarily endorse Gillibrand as a politician, btw! But TargaryenNation is fabulously excellent & wonderful.
(Yeah, yeah, “makes zero sense,” “bs”–not much to say there. Yawn.)

Well, nobody’s gonna tell me what I want because yes, I’m a fan of Daenerys. Duh. Irrelevant. She’s imperfect; I wouldn’t love a dull Mary Sue. Just wanted a believable treatment. Doesn’t have to be happy or involve “getting what she deserves,” since obviously that rarely happens. Doesn’t have to make her the greatest hero of the world. There was nothing spectacular or subtle or challenging or brilliant about “Oh, btw she’s just dragon-Hitler now, okay? Cool. Moving on. Only six episodes, you know!”
Easy enough to accept/ignore or try to explain away if one never liked her much anyway, I guess.
Of course she’d have to get rid of the walkers+wights one way or another. Still tough to imagine being a northerner and not feeling the appropriate amount of awe and gratitude watching her and her armies & dragons show up to give them hope. Some of their attitude is understandable, sure. A little wariness, fine. Not immediately throwing yourselves at her feet or anything like that–totally get it. But the overall anti-Dany conflict that they tried to start stoking in the premiere…just so forced, manufactured, and overblown. Would’ve been all right for the sake of “more interpersonal quarreling soon to be revealed as insignificant,” rather than actual pitiful, doomed-to-backfire attempt at turning people against the eternally-beloved heroine/main face of the show.

Dany had every right to be skeptical of Jon’s story. Then she risked literally everything to save his sorry hide, plus all those other dudes’. He then willingly bent the knee when she was no longer asking, and she sincerely swore they’d take down the NK as a team. (Though I expected their side to lose at Winterfell, so now doubly lament the way that went…)

Oh yeah, Arya was headed down such a dark path. Ffs, she had one person left. But noooo, don’t use your faceless assassin on Cersei. That’d be too intelligent for you recently lobotomized folks. Let her sneak in herself without informing y’all for some reason, then listen to the Hound and allow the building to kill Big C instead…um, aiight. Whatever. She wasn’t becoming a villain either way.
The non-slave people “rising up” in support of somebody they don’t even know yet was never part of the plan. That got thrown in out of left field in the second-to-last episode. Dany was explicitly aware not to expect so much as hearing of secret toasts to her return, let alone uprising. No connection between them & Rhaegal/Missandei. Direct connection between dead children and their murderers.
Combining the best fan suggestions/rewrites would yield a stupendous 11/10 ending, received & hailed like the rest of the series.
Total moot point re: the set; if you’d heard stories, yeah, wouldn’t be too big a shock at this point. Fortunately you didn’t.

I take no issue with Dany wanting to return fire on those mercilessly attacking/opposing her and clearly unwilling to compromise. Nor with taking advantage of the ability to threaten people and have to be taken seriously. She was one of the characters who most consistently tried hard to determine what was right/best for all and put it into action. She was all about compassion for the powerless and the innocent. She just wasn’t a pushover milquetoast.
Breaking the wheel meant ending the oppressive cycle of all-effectively-the-same powerful families fighting over a throne while everybody else suffered.

We saw her ruling style in the east. Plenty of opportunity to go berserk.
To illustrate that she was nothing but a time-bomb tyrant chomping at the bit, magically restrained by her council...rather than the strong, diligent, often wise-beyond-her-years young girl/woman we saw growing, learning, maturing into a (naturally flawed) yet relatively fair and benevolent and forward-thinking leader.

Little if anything to suggest she lacked interest in being a true ruler. God, we saw her so patiently bound and determined to do just that, to fulfill her duties to each and every citizen no matter how long she had to put off what she believed to be her own destiny. And which is it? She’s too power-hungry, or not enough?? Dany barely had a chance in Westeros…the moment she’d achieved her goal at long last, SNAP. Genetically wacko nutbag, gone beyond all reason, who never stood a chance thanks to her heritage. Unrecognizable. (Or did I miss the scene where she was conditioned to go rabid at the toll of a bell? Did they kinda forget that that'd be a more appropriate trigger for Cersei?) One dragon left & supposedly reduced forces–should’ve made her a bit more cautious if she were still her sane, normal self with the same aims. But no. Daenerys gone, She-Hitler here to stay.
You always get the “she was like this all along, she just had advisers holding her back…” Like oh BOY. Crazy madwoman requires others (primarily men) to keep her on a leash, and once she’s free all heck breaks loose. Really? That’s it? And in the end you still need a guy, albeit an atypical one, in charge. (AND we still don’t even get to stick around long enough to get a sense of his tax policy or anything else.) Look, I don’t even buy into what I call neofeminism, and maybe this seemed like a very clever subversion when George originally conceived of it, but there’s no wonder it went over like a lead balloon in this day and age. Hard to picture loving it in the books either, though surely it’d have to be an improvement, were it ever to arrive (and he hadn’t altered his course.)

True though, that GRRM has to shoulder some degree of blame. How much can’t be ascertained, unfortunately–which renders the whole continued discussion particularly useless. Just how much detail did the writers have to work with, & when?
Not an excuse, but still. I’d like to know what went on behind the scenes.
Fair point re: the northerners’ true natures, just not the type of “fun twist” I’d had in mind. xD

Dany was practically shown to be a saint. o.O Freed the slaves, gave them the option to do whatever they wanted, was rewarded with them choosing loyalty to the one who’d shown them respect. She only became an uber-extreme idealist riiiight at the last moment, when it was simply pointless and there was no need whatsoever to go in on the idea that “maybe we need to destroy this world in order to build the one we want.” Seemed to go in that direction purely for the fun and spectacle of incinerating the KL set. Again, should’ve gone straight there first thing…
I’d still pick her as my queen. ^^
But meh. “The people” are clearly fickle imbeciles anyway. xD Worse than the adults of South Park just standing there going “rabble rabble rabble.”
Dire guineapig–yes! True.
**FIN**"

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  1. I can't imagine the pain of assembling for the final GoT table-read, anticipating genuine cheers and applause and sad-happy tears at the end...and then reading THAT script...but of course nobody can speak up and say, "Uh, D 'n' D, this'll never fly..." There's no time for rewriting and story-changing. They're facing months of grueling filming, and now in the downtime practice for being able to tell the fans/audiences/reviewers/interviewers with a straight fucking face that it's the right end to George's tale, a magnificent finish. Someday when it's far enough in the rear-view mirror the truth will be able to emerge.

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